Even Tactics Tim would struggle to bump his win percentage up with this crowd.
Ciaran Clark has named his dream team of Aston Villa team mates - past and present - and even that is struggling to inspire.
The Republic of Ireland international went through his six years at the club and cobbled together the best of the best. Or the best of the average, in this case.
And, aside from a decent-looking midfield trio and big, bad John Carew up top, there's not an awful lot to be cheering here.
Clark put his XI together on the
Villa website and it really is a sign of the times at Villa Park that this is what he came up with.
