"People assume they're at the level. And they're not."
Dr Kate Kirby has worked with enough winners, she's helped tough people win, to know what it really takes.
After the final episodes of Netflix's The Last Dance documentary, the conversation still circulated around Michael Jordan and the debate about whether or not you have to be an asshole to be as big of a winner as the greatest of all time was.
But there are questions over that too - was he even that bad?
Dr Kirby refutes the claim that he was a bully and, whilst some team mates might not have liked Jordan's style, there are extenuating circumstances, laid out brilliantly in this chat with the lead psychologist of the Irish Olympic team.
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